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Banning wave due to VAC Bans
« on: November 24, 2016, 09:16:51 AM »

I would like to start this thread in the name of all the players , all across the kortal servers in many different games.
Many of us made mistakes in the past , and many of us still regret it till this day , Some of these mistakes include hacking - which as we all agree is unfair towards other players.
People resort to hacking for many reasons and each and every one is different.
There are people who made these mistakes long ago 5 years.. 3 years and there are those who are freshly banned 3 months? 1 month...
But we all realize that we made mistakes in the past...
So how many players are affected by this wave?
Lets have a look:
7656119806920777*   Steam   tLReal   Rust   KGBL   2016-11-23 13:46   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
4398   7656119826179216*   Steam   themynetcat   Rust   KGBL   2016-11-23 13:40   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
7656119802117229*   Steam   LnD_OmEgA111   Hurtworld   KGBL   2016-11-23 08:19   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
Steam   Unnamed   Hurtworld   KGBL   2016-11-23 03:06   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
4382   7656119825934547*   Steam   WizGamer00   Rust   KGBL   2016-11-23 03:03   permanent   Steam: GAME BAN
4381   7656119812084518*   Steam   PauloPlaaY   Rust   KGBL   2016-11-23 02:48   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
   7656119831298265*   Steam   papi   Rust   KGBL   2016-11-22 20:48   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
7656119809727320*   Steam   Unnamed   Hurtworld   KGBL   2016-11-22 18:45   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
7656119814496094*   Steam   Campones   Rust   KGBL   2016-11-22 14:41   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
7656119819026688*   Steam   Rezanie   Hurtworld   KGBL   2016-11-22 13:35   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
7656119806179675*   Steam   fxck_   Rust   KGBL   2016-11-22 12:18   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
4351   7656119804014035*   Steam   Hakaishin   Rust   KGBL   2016-11-22 11:04   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
7656119815118290*   Steam   Unnamed   Hurtworld   KGBL   2016-11-22 03:45   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
4346   7656119819821403*   Steam   TheDarkSensei   Hurtworld   KGBL   2016-11-22 00:31   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
4343   7656119805675748*   Steam   Angrarox   Rust   KGBL   2016-11-21 23:50   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
7656119825813136*   Steam   mapple   Rust   KGBL   2016-11-21 21:19   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
7656119813499484*   Steam   ChingChong   Hurtworld   KGBL   2016-11-21 20:09   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
4335   7656119811950496*   Steam   Feka   Rust   KGBL   2016-11-21 17:42   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
7656119815588644*   Steam   THUK LuckyOwl   Hurtworld   KGBL   2016-11-21 17:14   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
4330   7656119806704275*   Steam   RISt   Hurtworld   KGBL   2016-11-21 16:44   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
4318   7656119829928725*   Steam   Merklin   Rust   KGBL   2016-11-20 20:00   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
4317   7656119798657433*   Steam   Gaxanic   Rust   KGBL   2016-11-20 19:27   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
4316   7656119826234321*   Steam   Edunardo   Rust   KGBL   2016-11-20 19:14   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
   7656119822209738*   Steam   Kcaiwing   Hurtworld   KGBL   2016-11-21 16:26   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
7656119816159484*   Steam   likeagod   Hurtworld   KGBL   2016-11-20 18:11   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
7656119798414588*   Steam   Replay   Hurtworld   KGBL   2016-11-20 17:42   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
4310   7656119811290647*   Steam   Mixtere   Rust   KGBL   2016-11-20 17:23   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
308   7656119830660320*   Steam   Kali Linux   Hurtworld   KGBL   2016-11-20 16:09   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
7656119817662191*   Steam   Licaldo   Hurtworld   KGBL   2016-11-20 15:30   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
7656119814934246*   Steam   makbarishenny   Rust   KGBL   2016-11-20 14:24   permanent   Steam: VAC BAN
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Many of us have played on the server for months , and even years - And now we are banned ? for mistakes of the past?
This is not the full list , this is only the first page of the KGBL list , and thats atleast 30 players if not more.
With all due respect to kortal and the rest of the staff - I believe that this is a little unfair towards your community .
Yeah yea I know - Keeping the servers safe and clean from cheaters... but isnt that the admins job?
Its great that you try to make your admins job easier and ur servers cheater free but you hurt many of your players - Is this "sacrifice" really worth it?

There is also the inactive/slacking admins issue but thats a topic for another thread...

Thank you for reading,
tlReal - Hope that this issue gets resolved.
davai ni padvidi kortal.

 

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Re: Banning wave due to VAC Bans
« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2016, 09:59:05 AM »

its always a work in progress, i can tell you that more restrictions will be coming in the near future ( but also the relaxing of range bans).
ive made my opinion on this matter known. so i wont post a long spiel about it here. looks like i did.

but i will comment on a small part of your post.

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There is also the inactive/slacking admins issue but thats a topic for another thread...

i wouldnt say there is a single slacking admin. since admins are unpaid/gain nothing and do this in there spare time i expect there to be many times that those admin cant connect or look at logs/appeals, or just dont have the motivation.
im a VERY BAD example of this. since i have a large amount of freedom at work ( im actually working right now).

a good example is @Klakky, details in spoiler.. spiel alert. also about admins in general.

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Re: Banning wave due to VAC Bans
« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2016, 08:27:38 PM »

I do not want to get into the admin business , though I mostly agree with you ...
Atm I just want to deal with the issue at hand - The fact that me . and other players cant play because of the reasons above.

 

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Re: Banning wave due to VAC Bans
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2016, 10:30:31 PM »

No, people regret getting caught cheating, not about cheating. They cheat on purpose and are supposed to be aware of the consequences.
Maybe you are one of the few who regret it sincerely, but the majority doesnt care and think everything is permitted because it's cracked servers. It's something i don't allow on my servers.
Whenever we take decision to ban people, they will obviously not be happy and we will see them post. On the other hand, legit people who agree on this, will not bother posting.

It was well known that vac banned players were not welcomed on any of my servers. If we took that much time to ban them, it's because it took some time to properly make it automatic, but it was a feature that was planned from the start of the global ban list.

As gsx said, we are still in the process of adjustments of the triggers, but it's something which takes time to be properly made.
Rules might change at some point, but please, don't tell me cheaters regrets anything, when they just want to get unbanned to try to cheat again without being caught.

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Re: Banning wave due to VAC Bans
« Reply #4 on: November 25, 2016, 04:09:25 PM »

While I do agree that cheaters should be banned , fact is ... If a player is VAC banned it doesnt mean that he cheats/ will cheat on your server , and I just find it unfair that since I "cheated" years ago , I will suddenly get banned on a server which I love to play on and never even thought about cheating in...

I want to convince you that ur method of doing things is flawed and you should re-consider.

 

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Re: Banning wave due to VAC Bans
« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2016, 09:40:55 PM »

I do understand your point of view @endlessgateway. But you have to understand mine also.

You don't have to convince me, I know this system is not perfect.
As I said, it's a work in progress, and there is going to be some changes this week end since i'll have time and have now some data to work on.

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